This is a little surprising. Sister Wives star Kody Brown admitted he is a fan of first wife Meri Brown‘s “loyalty,” which is intriguing given the marriage troubles they’ve experienced in the last few years. He said he loves Meri’s faithfulness during an interview for the “Reality Life with Kate Casey” podcast when the host asked him to say one thing he loves about each of his four wives.

Meri, 49, and Kody, 51, continue to work on their marriage following a splintering of their bond after Meri’s catfishing scandal. After Meri started an online relationship with someone she thought was a man named Sam — who turned out to be a woman named Jackie Overton — their marriage has been strained, to say the least.

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Kody called his and Meri’s marriage “platonic” during season 12 of the TLC series, and in season 13, he spoke of the mistrust in their relationship in recent years. “It’s a matter of trust,” Kody explained in a tell-all episode on April 14. “And it’s a matter of spending five years in Las Vegas without trust.”

He claimed that there was “an energy” back at their Las Vegas homes but that they “left that behind us” after the whole family moved to Flagstaff. “I totally agree,” Meri said during the special. “You know, it’s like we left that bad, funky energy in Las Vegas, we’re moving on, you know. We’re moving forward, and it’s done.”

There’s a chance the duo has done some real work to mend things between them since the move. In fact, Kody notably confided in his first wife after all five spouses had a rather tense discussion about selling their Las Vegas homes on the January 26 episode of the reality series. He called her a “captive audience” and it was certainly interesting to see him go to her with such an emotional burden, despite their issues.

Plus, Meri shared a quote about the “healing, transformation, blessings and success” in store for her in 2020 on her Instagram Story in December. Could the healing and transformation goals have anything to do with her relationship with her husband?

In another part of the interview, Kody noted how difficult it is to “manage” all of the relationships between himself and his wives. “Plural marriage is very, very vulnerable,” he admitted. “We’re making a great effort all the time to make sure all the wives feel safe.”

Hopefully, Meri and Kody are feeling more secure in their own bond than they have in the last few years.

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