Ever since MTV‘s Catfish started, hosts Nev Schulman and Max Joseph have made the perfect team. But after a few years of being one of the most fascinating (and alternating heart-warming and gut-punching) shows on reality TV, the hosts had to part ways. Max’s filmmaking career was taking off, and it was just too much to juggle. But as much as we miss having him on the show, Nev is the one who misses him most. Watch the video above to find out why, and don’t forget to subscribe to our YouTube Channel.

So what does it come down to? “Our shared love for Phil Collins,” Nev admits — among other things. The two also just share a chemistry that can’t be rivaled. Well, except maybe by Laura Perlongo, Nev’s wife. The couple is expecting their second child together, but during last year’s Catfish season, they also had another project they worked on: hosting the show. “I still think she was the best [cohost],” he admitted.

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This year, though, he’s trying out a whole host of new, uh, hosts. When In Touch talked to him back in November, he called it a “different Catfish” with “different energy.” He admitted, “Bringing in new co-hosts who are both intelligent and passionate and legitimate fans of the show just brought in a whole new excitement and energy and passion and really, totally refreshed vibe for me.” And it’s nice to get a totally new perspective that we haven’t seen on the show before.

“You know Max thinks and says things differently than me,” Nev continued. “I think fans have sort of become accustomed to our duality, and it was so nice to have new personalities come on who can say new things, who can call people out in a way that I can’t call people out, who can relate to things or experiences, in a way that Max and I simply can’t.” But if Max ever wants to visit for another episode — or, hey! What about a whole season! — we’d be more than happy to have him.