She’s been mentally preparing for months to see her husband deported, but that doesn’t mean Teresa Giudice is ready now that’s it’s actually happening. According to her brother and fellow Real Housewives of New Jersey star, Joe Gorga, she seems to be struggling more than ever. And she’s not alone. Though Joe Giudice finished his time in prison, he’s still behind bars — only now his confinement is more strict than ever. In a new interview with Us Weekly, Joe (Gorga, that is) talked about how his sister and brother-in-law are coping. Spoiler: It’s not well.

“Teresa’s put up a good front, but our relationship is very tight right now and [I] know she breaks down to me,” Joe, 39, told Us. “She just has to keep it strong for those for little girls [daughters Gia, 18, Gabriella, 14, Milania, 13, and Audriana, 9]. The girls are having it rough also. They’re really struggling. … It’s just very, very hard. The family is going through a very tough time right now.” According to him, Teresa’s emotions are “all over the place.” She’s ready to move on — but she can’t until this situation is put to bed.

Her husband isn’t doing any better. “The guy is just in misery,” Joe continued. “Joe’s in a tough spot right now. … He got released [from prison in March] — ICE took him over — and he’s miserable. He’s in a really bad spot. He’s locked up in a jail cell with bars. The other facility that he was at, he wasn’t in a jail cell. So he’s having a very, very hard time, and he really wants to get out.”

Though they can’t actually see each other in person, the couple is able to lean on each other during this difficult time, despite the state of their rocky relationship. (In the past few months, Teresa’s been spotted with a new man, though she’s avoided addressing those rumors.) “They talk almost every day. … Believe it or not, he could call as many times as he wants. It’s crazy. I mean, if he wants to call 30 times a day, he can. So they talk a lot. They haven’t seen him yet but I know they’re planning to go.” However, there is one place they’re not planning to go, and that’s Italy.

“If he’s deported, she’s not going to go to Italy,” Teresa’s brother confirms once more. “She’s not going to move her children. It’s just that there’s nothing to do in Italy. There’s no jobs; the best you can do is work in a restaurant or work in a gas station. It’s very difficult in Italy. … So I believe she’s making the right decision for her and for her girls.”

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