This isn’t exactly a surprise. Candice DeLong — a former FBI criminal profiler and criminologist — appeared on Dr. Phil on Dec. 18, and said Chris Watts is “a narcissist.” To refresh your memory, Chris is the Colorado man who pleaded guilty to murdering his pregnant wife and their daughters on Nov. 6.

Candice said on the episode that Chris “is a malignant narcissist and psychopath,” according to Oxygen. Dr. Phil later added in agreement, “A narcissist actually thinks he can get away with it…And they get caught so easily because they don’t look at the other points of view.” And in Candice’s expert opinion, “The hallmark is that they don’t feel remorse or empathy.” Sounds like what we’ve seen of Chris, all right.

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Chris murdered his wife, Shan’ann Watts, and strangled his two young daughters — Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 — in their home in August. His kids’ bodies were dumped in a tank of oil and left there for three days, and Shan’ann’s body was found in a shallow grave near the tanks on a site owned by Chris’ previous employer.

During the Dr. Phil episode, different videos of Chris were played — such as a video of him sitting across from a Colorado state investigator not long after his family went missing, Oxygen reported. When he was asked to describe all the ways a person could make someone else disappear, Chris giggled. In Dr. Phil’s opinion, “He laughs and he smiles because at this point he still thinks he’s the smartest person in the room.” Candice added that it’s not hard for people like Chris to kill others because they don’t “feel stress.”

We, of course, can’t know exactly what Chris felt when he killed his wife and family, and frankly, we don’t want to. But at least one expert believes he is a psychopath, so at least he’s been sentenced to three life sentences in prison and should be locked away for good.