Even though Michelle Obama and her husband Barack Obama seem like the ultimate couple goals, the former FLOTUS and POTUS still go through ups and downs just like in any other relationship. In her newly released memoir Becoming, Michelle admitted that she and Barack fight as most couples do, and she even admitted that she and Barack had to seek out marriage counseling in order to work through their issues.

“We didn’t fight often, and when we did, it was typically over petty things, a string of pent-up aggravations that surfaced usually when one or both of us got overly fatigued or stressed,” Michelle, 54, wrote in Becoming. “But we did fight. And for better or worse, I tend to yell when I’m angry. When something sets me off, the feeling can be intensely physical, a kind of fireball running up my spine and exploding in the moment. Barack, meanwhile, tends to remain cool and rational, his words coming in an eloquent (and therefore irritating) cascade.”

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WASHINGTON, DC – JANUARY 21: U.S. President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama dance together during the Comander-in-Chief’s Inaugural Ball at the Walter Washington Convention Center January 21, 2013 in Washington, DC. Obama was sworn-in for his second term of office earlier in the day. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

Eventually, Michelle felt that it would be beneficial for them to seek help through couple’s therapy. “Barack was reluctant at first to try couples counseling. Sitting down in front of a stranger struck him as uncomfortable, if not a tad dramatic,” she wrote.

But the former US President eventually agreed to go to marriage counseling, and Michelle has been very open about how much it’s helped them to maintain their 26-year marriage. During an interview with Good Morning America, Michelle explained that it was important for her to share her and Barack’s couples’ therapy journey because young couples have a common misconception that marriage should be easy.

“I know too many young couples who struggle and think that somehow there’s something wrong with them,” the former First Lady said during her GMA interview. “And I want them to know that Michelle and Barack Obama, who have a phenomenal marriage and who love each other, we work on our marriage. And we get help with our marriage when we need it.”

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