David and Louise Turpin made headlines when they were arrested for holding their 13 children captive in their California home. Now, two months after the “House of Horrors” couple was charged with torturing and starving their kids, ranging in age from 2 to 29, relatives of the family appeared on The Dr. Oz Show to give an update on the pair behind bars.

Louise’s sister, Elizabeth Flores, and her cousin Patricia Andreassen spoke on the daytime talk show after visiting Louise in prison. According to Elizabeth, she had no idea the Turpins were “capable of this evil” and revealed that the siblings were victims of childhood abuse themselves — explaining how Louise would sacrifice herself to the family member to protect her sister and cousins from being abused. “That’s why it’s so shocking that she wouldn’t protect her own kids,” she explained.

However, after speaking to Louise in prison, where she is awaiting trial, Elizabeth was surprised to see her sister was not remorseful. “It was, like, when I looked in her eyes, she was crying at first like she was so happy to see us. She was crying, saying, ‘I’m so happy you’re here.’ But, when her eyes cleared up, they were clear. They were sparkly,” she said. “As I was talking to her, I realized that it’s all fantasy. She’s living a movie. She’s writing her own story. She’s re-writing her story. Almost like she was so into Disneyland and stuff, I think even things that came up in her childhood.”

She was also surprised that Louise did not ask about her kids, who are currently under the care of authorities. Her half-brother Billy Lambert recently spoke out about the crimes and revealed he was receiving death threats from people who claimed he knew about the abuse.

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“It was more than just a shock — it was devastating to us,” Lambert told People magazine. “She would tell us the kids are doing great. She was real busy home-schooling. She told us David was making two or three hundred thousand [dollars] a year, so we thought they had this awesome life and always going on trips. We didn’t never in a million years think that something like that was actually going on.”

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